"The Analects" in Detail: For All Those Who Misinterpret Confucius (64)
2007/4/19 15:34:58
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Meng Yizi asked about filial piety. The Master said: "Do not depart." Fan Chi was driving. The Master told him: "Meng Sun asked me about filial piety, and I replied, 'Do not depart.'" Fan Chi asked: "What does that mean?" The Master said: "While alive, serve them with ritual; when dead, bury them with ritual, sacrifice to them with ritual."
Yang Bojun: Meng Yizi asked Confucius about filial piety. Confucius said: "Do not disobey the rites." Shortly after, Fan Chi was driving for Confucius, and Confucius told him: "Meng Sun asked me about filial piety, and I replied: 'Do not disobey the rites.'" Fan Chi asked: "What does that mean?" Confucius said: "While parents are alive, serve them according to the prescribed rites; when they die, bury them according to the prescribed rites, and sacrifice to them according to the prescribed rites."
Qian Mu: Meng Yizi asked: "What constitutes filial piety?" The Master said: "Do not go against it." One day, Fan Chi was driving for the Master, and the Master told him: "Meng Sun asked me about filial piety, and I answered: 'Do not go against it.'" Fan Chi said: "What does that mean?" The Master said: "While parents are alive, serve them with proper ritual; when dead, bury them with proper ritual, sacrifice to them with proper ritual."
Li Zehou: Meng Yizi asked what filial piety is. Confucius replied: "Do not disobey." Fan Chi was driving for Confucius, and Confucius said to him: "Meng Yizi asked me what filial piety is, and I replied: 'Do not disobey.'" Fan Chi asked: "What does that mean?" Confucius said: "While parents are alive, serve them according to the rites; when dead, bury them according to the rites, sacrifice to them according to the rites."
Detailed Explanation: "Filial piety" (孝), for Confucius and Confucianism, is merely a very everyday concept. In Confucius's thinking, there was absolutely no idea of "governing the realm through filial piety" as was later retrofitted. Meng Yizi was a Lu state grandee whose father required him to study rites under Confucius, making him one of Confucius's early disciples, though this person's relationship to Confucius was somewhat like Judas to Jesus, which is why later generations generally did not consider him a student of Confucius.
"违" (wéi) — its original meaning is "to leave, depart"; "无违" means not departing from the present reality of society, which includes culture, economics, and so on. Some later commentators interpreted "无违" as not disobeying one's parents — this is clearly wrong and inconsistent with reality. Don't murderers and arsonists have children too? Must their children also commit murder and arson to be "not departing"? Moreover, Confucius later gives his own explanation of "无违": "While alive, serve them with ritual; when dead, bury them with ritual, sacrifice to them with ritual." Here, Confucius emphasizes "ritual" (礼). Since "ritual" is repeatedly mentioned in the Analects, many related questions must be gradually addressed later. But what must be known first is that "ritual" for Confucius is always of the present moment — there is no eternally unchanging "ritual" that transcends reality.
"Ritual" (礼) was originally connected to "rituals for worshipping the gods and seeking blessings," and was later extended to various conventional norms of behavior in social life. These norms are necessarily related to the present reality of the current society. And "filial piety" itself is also a conventional norm, equally possessing this quality of being in the present. Therefore, in Confucius's view, so-called "filial piety" is a present-moment manifestation within the dynamic system of social behavioral norms. There is no a priori norm that gives "filial piety" an absolutely unalterable standard. If your parents are collaborators, Tojo Hideki types, then righteous extermination of one's own kin is the greatest "filial piety" — this is the true meaning of "无违" (not departing).
Chán Zhōng Shuō Chán's Vernacular Translation
Meng Yizi asked about filial piety. The Master said: "Do not depart." Fan Chi was driving. The Master told him: "Meng Sun asked me about filial piety, and I replied, 'Do not depart.'" Fan Chi asked: "What does that mean?" The Master said: "While alive, serve them with ritual; when dead, bury them with ritual, sacrifice to them with ritual."
Meng Yizi asked about filial piety. Confucius said: "Do not depart." Fan Chi was driving for Confucius, and Confucius told him: "Meng Sun asked me about filial piety, and I replied: 'Do not depart.'" Fan Chi asked: "What does that mean?" Confucius said: "While parents are alive, serve them with the conventions of the present society; when parents die, bury and sacrifice to them with the conventions of the present society."
Ziyou asked about filial piety. The Master said: "Nowadays filial piety merely means being able to provide for parents. But even dogs and horses are provided for; without reverence, what is the difference?"
Yang Bojun: Ziyou asked about filial piety. Confucius said: "Nowadays so-called filial piety simply means being able to feed one's parents. But dogs and horses are also able to get fed; without genuine reverence, what difference is there between feeding parents and feeding animals?"
Qian Mu: Ziyou asked: "What constitutes filial piety?" The Master said: "Nowadays people think just feeding parents makes a filial child. But even dogs and horses are fed by someone. Without a heart of reverence toward parents, where is the difference!"
Li Zehou: Ziyou asked what filial piety is. Confucius said: "Today's filial piety only talks about being able to feed parents. People also feed dogs and horses. Without respect, what's the difference?"
Detailed Explanation: The literal meaning of this chapter is very clear, but the perspective differs from the previous chapter. The previous chapter examined the present-moment quality of "filial piety" as a special social norm from the standpoint of the overall social structure. This chapter examines the present-moment quality of "filial piety" as a concrete individual behavior from the standpoint of the specific individual. As the saying goes, "In appearance it is courtesy, in the heart it is reverence." Confucius emphasizes "reverence" (敬), not the superficial "providing for" (养). The heart exists only in the present moment. If one's heart lacks reverence, then one merely treats one's parents as dogs and horses — even if one can provide for them, what good is it?
Chán Zhōng Shuō Chán's Vernacular Translation
Ziyou asked about filial piety. The Master said: "Nowadays filial piety merely means being able to provide for parents. But even dogs and horses are provided for; without reverence, what is the difference?"
Ziyou asked about filial piety. Confucius said: "Being able to provide for parents is considered filial piety nowadays. But even dogs and horses are provided for by people. Without reverence in one's heart, what can distinguish the two?"
(To be continued)
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Replies
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 15:49:25
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 15:39:58
Hello Master Chan:
Today's movement was exactly as you predicted — truly remarkable.
But today our mid-to-long-term pick 002051 (China Civil Engineering International), I didn't sell. Entered around 18 yuan in batches, planning to hold to 50 yuan. Any guidance, Master Chan? I'm all ears, most grateful.
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Even for long-term positions, you should learn to sell at larger sell points and buy back at buy points. This can lower your cost basis and increase flexibility in holding. Of course, this requires some technical skill, so keep studying.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 15:52:58
[Anonymous] dliss
2007-04-19 15:44:11
I'm none of those types.
Put all my money into stocks,
then started watching the diving show.
Having no other option, bold and reckless, haha. At 13:30 in the afternoon I bought back the stocks I sold in the morning.
Haha, this week's gains wiped out. Only 200 yuan more than last Friday's.
:):)
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Keep studying. You must wait for true divergence before buying back. Was there divergence at 13:30? Of course, individual stocks do differ.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 15:55:43
[Anonymous] 新5309年好
2007-04-19 15:50:20
"The aggressive type — daring to attack stocks with buy points even during the big drop. Truly achieving the mindset of only caring about buy/sell points — selling at sell points, buying at buy points, not being swayed by broad market fluctuations."
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I belong to this type. Seems too aggressive. I sold what I could around 10 AM this morning. Unfortunately I bought back too early — saw what looked like 1-minute divergence several times and entered, forgetting to check that the 5-minute was still in decline. Must fix this habit in the future. But the biggest failure was going full position at yesterday's close. Without that, today would have been better.
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Being aggressive requires technical support. If your technique isn't there yet, take a more conservative approach. For example, if the 5-day line breaks, unless there's a particularly obvious larger-level divergence, just hold cash and wait. Even if it goes back up, there are still second and third type buy points for entry.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 15:57:09
[Anonymous] 墨香小老虎
2007-04-19 15:53:52
Blogger:
I didn't do well on the short swing. Didn't buy back at the lowest point in the afternoon.
Lost 10,000 yuan in profit.
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If your technique is lacking, it's better to sell a bit early and buy a bit late.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 15:59:24
[Anonymous] 巴索林
2007-04-19 15:56:46
I'm the 4th type. Just that my grasp of buy/sell points still isn't accurate. For example, this afternoon I entered in several batches. Once again seriously self-criticizing — must study harder.
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You must wait for true divergence. And with this kind of movement, psychologically you also know it will definitely drop until after 2:30 PM. This is a matter of experience. Just like how diving often happens at 14:45.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 16:00:33
[Anonymous] 飞
2007-04-19 15:59:12
Blogger, some stocks clearly have buy points appear, but when the broad market drops they follow it down! Is the broad market's movement very important? Does it affect individual stocks?
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When the broad market is bad, you must wait for larger-level buy points, or buy points that appear at the end of the day. Otherwise you may not escape the T+1 restriction.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 16:02:03
A Grain of Rice
2007-04-19 15:59:25
Hello Miss Chan!
It seems my mentality is still unstable. Today I had no reaction at all, made no operations. Wiped out 62% of the past two weeks' profit. Seriously reflecting.
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When you're unsure, go half position — that way it's guaranteed not to be wrong.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 16:03:02
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 16:00:53
I'm the aggressive type. Sold in the morning, then added Suidao Gufen at 13:47, but sadly it hit another new low. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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You must learn to wait for true divergence.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 16:04:25
Sorry, I have a business meeting at 16:30, will come back online at 9 PM tonight.
Signing off, goodbye.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:15:31
Good evening everyone.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:21:26
Two Tigers
2007-04-19 16:01:10
Fairy Sister, why am I so numb when facing big drops?
I'm always used to buying first then selling, extremely slow at selling first then buying.
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This is a common problem among beginners — buy points and sell points are equal.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:28:43
[Anonymous] 好人好报
2007-04-19 16:26:45
After studying Sister Chan's theory, I feel that buying at larger buy points is relatively safe (30-minute level), while for sell points using 5-minute sell points works better. In a major downtrend, buying at 5-minute or 1-minute buy points might not escape the T+1 limitation. Am I right about this, Miss Chan?
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The T+1 limitation must indeed be considered. But generally speaking, during a particularly massive drop, if there's true 5-minute divergence, the rebound strength is already sufficient for short-term trading. Of course, this applies to small capital.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:30:25
[Anonymous] 大妈妈
2007-04-19 16:30:56
Miss Chan, today's 30-minute market movement only has one hub, closing below the hub. According to yesterday's lesson, that should be a "turning point equilibrium market" — does it mean turning from decline to rise, or turning from the recent rise to a downtrend? If it turns to a downtrend, there should be another 30-minute declining hub, right? Is this analysis correct? Please advise!!
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It belongs to a relatively weak equilibrium market — the day's high appeared in the first 3 candlesticks.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:44:54
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 20:29:57
Today in the morning 600855 looked very strong, so I bought it. Didn't expect it to break below the 5-day line in the afternoon. May I ask Sister Chan, will it continue to pull back?
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This has been said many times: unless there's a larger-level buy point, buying stocks should be done in the afternoon, especially when the movement is unclear. Moreover, this stock had no buy point this morning at all, so you must review carefully.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:47:26
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 20:29:57
Today in the morning 600855 looked very strong, so I bought it. Didn't expect it to break below the 5-day line in the afternoon. May I ask Sister Chan, will it continue to pull back?
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This has been said many times: unless there's a larger-level buy point, buying stocks should be done in the afternoon, especially when the movement is unclear. Moreover, this stock had no buy point this morning at all, so you must review carefully.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:48:17
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 20:29:57
Today in the morning 600855 looked very strong, so I bought it. Didn't expect it to break below the 5-day line in the afternoon. May I ask Sister Chan, will it continue to pull back?
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This has been said many times: unless there's a larger-level buy point, buying stocks should be done in the afternoon, especially when the movement is unclear. Moreover, this stock had no buy point this morning at all, so you must review carefully.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:55:34
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 21:37:33
Chán Zhōng Shuō Chán
2007-04-19 16:03:02
[Anonymous] Sina User
2007-04-19 16:00:53
I'm the aggressive type. Sold in the morning, then added Suidao Gufen at 13:47, but sadly it hit another new low. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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You must learn to wait for true divergence.
----------------------Thank you, Miss Chan. At the time I thought 13:47 was a 1-minute divergence. Was my judgment wrong?
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You still need to study more. In this kind of movement, afterward there was a standard small third type sell point.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 21:58:04
[Anonymous] 工人时光
2007-04-19 21:25:26
What should we office workers do in situations like this? When we have time off we're at home, but on the critical day we're at work. How to handle this?
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If you're operating at the daily level, holding from last year until now, shouldn't this kind of oscillation be nothing? The key is your operational level. If you don't have time and your technique isn't good, then operate at a larger level.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 22:06:29
[Anonymous] 三藏
2007-04-19 21:55:55
Boss, what caused this morning's decline?
Couldn't figure it out!
Also, why was the afternoon's final rise so powerful?
No divergence there!
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You need to figure out which segment to compare with. If you can't see it clearly on the 1-minute, look at the 5-minute. This kind of situation where the yellow/white lines haven't pulled back — of course it's not 5-minute divergence, but it must be sub-5-minute divergence. It's very clear which two segments to compare.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 22:16:50
The page is loading too slowly today — very hard to post replies. Probably the big oscillation today drove everyone to Sina's site. Market experience needs to be honed. Treat buy and sell points equally — this will take your technique up a level.
If your technique isn't good — for example, this ID told you to watch the 5-day line — if you can't even watch the 5-day line properly, then it's a mentality problem, and you need deep self-reflection. With a bad mentality, your mind is full of fantasies rather than operating according to actual market movements. In that case, no amount of technique study will help.
Knowing, understanding, being able to read the charts, and being able to operate well — the gap between these is enormous. As this ID has said before, even if everyone studies this ID's theory, it won't affect this ID. Ultimately what's compared is the person themselves.
If you can't even do the most basic thing — never chasing highs or selling lows — then there's nothing more to say.
Signing off, goodbye.
缠中说禅 2007/4/19 15:37:29
Today's movement is very normal. The technical reasoning was already explained yesterday. Even if you couldn't figure out what was said yesterday, the 5-day line breaking below plus the third type of sell point from yesterday's hub at 04191108 were enough to give you adequate time to react. In a bull market, declines are fast and rises are slow. Once you've sold, you must find an opportunity to buy back — otherwise, the bull market has nothing to do with you. Fundamentally, however the data turns out, it's no big deal. Even if there's a rate hike, it's nothing major.
Today from 10:30 to 13:30, three K-lines formed a hub around 3520. Short-term, watch whether this can be re-penetrated to the upside. Once it's penetrated and held, the original movement continues. Of course, from this ID's perspective, completing the first target of Shenzhen 10,000 and Shanghai 3,500, I'd hope to see a consolidation process here — as mentioned before — that would be more stable. But currently capital is flowing in too fast, and this ID's kind of prudent thinking may not be accepted by the market. This ID only watches the market's reaction — the market can do whatever it wants. For individual stocks, laggards catching up and those deliberately reporting poor earnings will continue to perform.
Continuing some gossip — today's movement can divide people into several types: First, scared stiff. Second, those caught short saying "I said there would be a correction" — they've been saying it since 3,000 points and can finally pleasure themselves today. Third, the practical type — seeing no third type buy point forming at the open this morning, they exited first. At the latest, by 04191108 they sold stocks with sell points, then waited for buy points to replenish. Fourth, the aggressive type — daring to attack stocks with buy points even during the big drop. Truly achieving the mindset of only caring about buy and sell points — selling at sell points, buying at buy points, not being swayed by broad market fluctuations.
So which type are you?