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Detailed Analysis of "The Analects": For All Those Who Misinterpret Confucius (53)

2007/2/27 15:29:57

The Master said: At fifteen I was marked by learning; at thirty, by standing firm; at forty, by freedom from confusion; at fifty, by knowing Heaven's mandate; at sixty, by compliant hearing; at seventy, by following my heart's desires without overstepping the measure.

Yang Bojun: Confucius said: "At fifteen, I set my heart on learning; at thirty, [I understood the rites and] was established in word and deed; at forty, [having mastered various kinds of knowledge,] I was no longer confused; at fifty, I knew the mandate of Heaven; at sixty, upon hearing others' words, I could immediately distinguish truth from falsehood and judge right from wrong; at seventy, I could follow my heart's desires without overstepping the bounds."

Qian Mu: The Master said: "At fifteen, I first aspired to learning. By thirty, I could stand firm. By forty, I had penetrated all principles without doubt. By fifty, I could know Heaven's mandate. By sixty, whatever I heard, I could understand and penetrate it all without feeling anything contrary in my heart. By seventy, I simply followed my heart's desires, and there was no overstepping of rules or standards."

Li Zehou: Confucius said: "At fifteen I resolved to study; at thirty I established myself; at forty I was no longer confused; at fifty I accepted my destiny; at sixty I naturally received all criticism; at seventy my heart did as it wished without violating rites or rules."

Detailed explanation: A phrase known to all, yet never truly understood by anyone — not even the simple grammatical phenomenon of parallel-structure ellipsis has ever been pointed out. After "十有五而志于学" (at fifteen, marked by learning), the subsequent "立" (standing firm), "不惑" (freedom from confusion), "知天命" (knowing Heaven's mandate), "耳顺" (compliant hearing), and "从心所欲不逾矩" (following the heart's desires without overstepping) each have "志于" (marked by) correspondingly omitted before them. The complete sentence should read: "子曰:吾十有五而志于学,三十而志于立,四十而志于不惑,五十而志于知天命,六十而志于耳顺,七十而志于从心所欲不逾矩" (The Master said: At fifteen I was marked by learning; at thirty, by standing firm; at forty, by freedom from confusion; at fifty, by knowing Heaven's mandate; at sixty, by compliant hearing; at seventy, by following my heart's desires without overstepping the measure).

"于" is equivalent to "by" or "with." "志" is the ancient character for "誌" — to mark, to record. "志于X" means "to mark with X." There are two layers of meaning: First, the age numbers — fifteen, thirty, etc. — roughly correspond to the actual ages at which Confucius reached certain corresponding states, but this does not mean that these individual experiences carry any absolute significance. For example, it does not mean that anyone at "thirty" will necessarily "stand firm." There is no necessary connection between "thirty" and "standing firm." These states do not necessarily follow a mechanically age-determined sequence — they are merely markers. Second, all previous interpretations have overlooked the ellipsis of "志于," treating the subsequent states as inevitable results of "learning," and moreover treating each state as a fixed standard. But in fact, each state is self-sufficient and dynamic. Each state has its own "birth, abiding, decay, and cessation." The reason it is called "marking with" (志于) is merely to label each state with a term — this must never obscure their vivid, living manifestation in the present moment.

"学" — "hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing" the "Way of the Sage." "Hearing and seeing" lead to "learning," and "learning" leads to "practice." "Learning" is the hub connecting "hearing and seeing" with "practice." "Learning" encompasses all things. The corresponding state and conduct are marked by "学."

"立" — everything in the world has its "standing" (立), its position and rank. To trace things to their ultimate source, one must first investigate their "standing" and exhaust their positions and ranks. Such a state and conduct is marked by "立."

"不惑" — "standing" entails its "troubles" (患). "Troubles" entail their "confusions" (惑). Yet all "standing" is established through the positionlessness of "non-trouble" (不患). Without exhausting the "non-trouble," one cannot achieve "non-confusion" (不惑). This state of "non-trouble" leading to "non-confusion" — its conduct is marked by "不惑."

"天" means time. "时" means the present moment. "命" means existence, being alive. "知" means wisdom. "知天命" — to exist in the present moment while manifesting wisdom. All wisdom is inseparable from present-moment existence; otherwise, it is all empty fantasy. The achievement of wisdom must be the living manifestation of present-moment existence. This state and conduct is marked by "知天命."

"顺" means to follow, to obey. "耳顺" — "耳" (ear) means "hearing" (闻), and "hearing" is inseparable from "seeing, learning, and practicing." What does "hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing" follow? It follows "knowing Heaven's mandate." "Hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing" follows the wisdom that manifests freshly and vividly through present-moment existence — this is the true meaning of "耳顺." This state and conduct is marked by "耳顺."

"从心所欲不逾矩" — "心" does not refer to one's private desires, but to the people's heart. Following the people's aspirations without exceeding the "矩" (standard/measure). What is "矩"? It is the position of what can realistically be achieved through "hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing" the "Way of the Sage" in the present reality. Following the people's aspirations without exceeding the position of what "hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing" the "Way of the Sage" can realistically achieve in the present — this state and conduct is marked by "从心所欲不逾矩."

"Hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing" the "Way of the Sage" — exhausting the reality of "standing," fully penetrating the "non-trouble" of what reality has established to be "non-confused" in the moment — using the present moment to let wisdom manifest freshly and vividly to "know Heaven's mandate." Only then comes the Inner Sageliness of "耳顺" (compliant hearing) and the Outer Kingliness of "从心所欲不逾矩" (following the heart's desires without overstepping). Only with this understanding can one roughly grasp the main theme of this chapter.

Chán Zhōng Shuō Chán's Vernacular Direct Translation

The Master said: At fifteen I was marked by learning; at thirty, by standing firm; at forty, by freedom from confusion; at fifty, by knowing Heaven's mandate; at sixty, by compliant hearing; at seventy, by following my heart's desires without overstepping the measure.

Confucius said: The state and conduct of my fifteenth year is marked by "from then on, hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing the Way of the Sage." The state and conduct of my thirtieth year is marked by "exhausting the realistic possible positions of hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing the Way of the Sage." The state and conduct of my fortieth year is marked by "thoroughly penetrating the non-trouble of the realistic possible positions of hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing the Way of the Sage." The state and conduct of my fiftieth year is marked by "hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing the Way of the Sage so as to let wisdom manifest freshly and vividly through present-moment existence." The state and conduct of my sixtieth year is marked by "following the wisdom that manifests freshly and vividly through present-moment existence to hear, see, learn, and practice the Way of the Sage, thereby achieving Inner Sageliness." The state and conduct of my seventieth year is marked by "following the people's aspirations without exceeding the position of what hearing, seeing, learning, and practicing the Way of the Sage can realistically achieve in the present, thereby achieving Outer Kingliness."

(To be continued)

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缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:31:20

Probably when the traitors wanted to dump, they discovered that this ID dumps harder than they do — that's also why this ID has repeatedly stressed that retail investors absolutely must not buy. This ID honored its Spring Festival promise, but never promised to forever hold some line. The inevitability of the broader market adjustment is that the weekly chart hub must have a third segment — this is called "trend completeness is inevitable." So oscillation is unavoidable. Even if the market holds above 3000, it merely enters the daily divergence segment. A single short-term divergence triggering today's one-sided decline is nothing surprising — all within the plan.

This ID's theory always follows the chart — none of that pointless perma-bull or perma-bear nonsense. For this decline, the first 1-minute hub formed around midday. If tomorrow's open doesn't immediately return above 2869, a second one must form, then enter the divergence segment. So — trade by the chart. If you've exited, continue following the chart and buy back what should be bought. This ID's theory's effectiveness will mercilessly demonstrate itself through every oscillation.

As for individual stocks, the only thing this ID bought today was some deep Shenzhen low-priced local stocks. Everything else has been cashing out — especially stocks like 000416, 600432, etc. that have already doubled for this ID. This ID can only ruthlessly bring the cost basis to zero. Of course, these stocks still have medium-term potential. But for this ID, going forward it's all about accumulating shares for free. For those with modest gains, this ID will replenish positions when buy points appear, because after the weekly adjustment ends, the market must still head upward.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:39:28

[Anonymous] 阿甘

2007-02-27 15:37:38
Boss, I also bought 0029 — why did it get smashed down at the close?

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What's 000029? That's a real estate stock — this ID never touches those.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:41:07

[Anonymous] 淡定

2007-02-27 15:39:25
Hello OP!

Today wasn't easy. I had planned to sell half at higher levels, but hesitated and ended up buying more in the afternoon. Depressed!

Also, is there really major negative news as the market rumors say?

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The first hub has just appeared — why are you covering? Trade by the chart. Negative news is meaningless.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:42:12

[Anonymous] 二踢脚

2007-02-27 15:33:19
Front row!!

But the market's crashing — sis, you gotta save me!!

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Master the theory — that's the only effective thing. Don't be a perma-bull or perma-bear — it's pointless.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:42:41

[Anonymous] 惊鸿一慕

2007-02-27 15:42:01
Chan sis, yesterday at 4:40pm I asked a question about The Analects.
You didn't even see it. Depressing...
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What was it? Please ask.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:46:07

[Anonymous] NOVEMBER

2007-02-27 15:44:13
OP, could you help look at 600690? Below it feels like a kiss is forming — should I add to my position or cut?

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Don't wait until it's already falling to ask what to do. Divergence always appears while something is rising — by the time it's falling, the sell point has long passed. This ID has said repeatedly: better to sell too early than too late.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:47:04

[Anonymous] 惊鸿一慕

2007-02-27 15:44:59
Let me copy it over:
2007-02-26 16:37:50
Belated New Year greetings to Chan sis! Over the 6-day holiday, I studied The Analects seriously, reading until 1am every night. The more I read, the more wonderful; the more I read, the more doubts arose. Please guide me, sis. Since I have many doubts but don't want to take up everyone's time, I'll ask one per day:

  1. For two thousand plus years, tofu Confucians have believed Confucius's core thought is "ren" (benevolence). After reading Chan sis's Analects explanation, I feel Confucius's thought isn't "ren" at all — it's "ren" (the complete human being), about becoming a person of "Inner Sageliness and Outer Kingliness" who stands tall between heaven and earth. Is my understanding correct?
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    Without benevolence, the person is not a person. Without the person, benevolence is not benevolence.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 15:52:36

[Anonymous] shabi

2007-02-27 15:44:50
Things are already like this and you're still boasting. From your writing it's obvious you're agitated and restless. You even challenged Rogers — with your mentality, you're trading stocks? One sentence in your article says something like even 4000 yuan is money — just from that, you've clearly never seen real money. You're a pervert.

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Is 4000 yuan not money? In this ID's eyes, 4000 yuan and 400 billion are no different at all — when it comes to losing, the speed is the same. If a person still makes distinctions between big and small, they haven't even reached Zhuangzi's level.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:01:12

[Anonymous] 无限

2007-02-27 15:57:42
Hello Your Majesty!

This morning I noticed the 5-minute and 30-minute divergence. Around 10:30, I told everyone in the QQ group. Then I sold Ziguang Shares and made a small profit.

But unfortunately, I didn't expect the market to drop this hard. Plus I had some confidence in my other stocks, so I didn't sell. I considered going fully to cash but then denied it. Result: Sichou Shares went from limit-up at the high all the way back to the starting point, and my other two stocks hit limit-down.

From now on, I must trade by the chart, no personal sentiment. Same principle as cultivation. Act without acting.

Now I'm at half position, continuing to wait for at least a 5-minute or even 30-minute bottom divergence in the market. But I'm not great at stock selection — not sure which stock will recover fastest.

Thank you, Your Majesty, for the divergence theory that saved me from being trapped this time.

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Don't rush to cover positions. If not even a hub forms, it means the trend is very strong — you must patiently wait for a hub to appear. After two hubs, once divergence appears, that's a very safe covering point.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:02:29

[Anonymous] 苜蓿宝宝

2007-02-27 15:59:40
OP, is there a high probability of daily divergence appearing? The more I look, the more it seems like it!!

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Currently it's nowhere near daily divergence — just a minute-level divergence. But the biggest technical pressure is that the weekly hub must have three segments. Currently walking the third segment.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:04:50

[Anonymous] 新学禅论

2007-02-27 15:57:16
Blogger, I've only been studying your theory for a few weeks, so progress is slow. A question: in a given level's uptrend or downtrend, two hubs are needed. Does the hub before the uptrend or downtrend begins count? For example, 600497 — I see only one daily hub from 2005/09/20–2005/10/14 in the 2005/07/27–2005/10/25 daily uptrend. If the hub before 2005/07/27 doesn't count, there's only one daily hub.

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Before and after both belong to different movement types — they cannot be mixed together.



缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:12:22

[Anonymous] 酒吧心情

2007-02-27 16:04:22
"This decline, the first 1-minute hub formed around midday. If tomorrow's open doesn't immediately return above 2869, a second one must form, then enter the divergence segment."

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Chan JJ, I can't see the 1-minute hub, but on the 5-minute I can tell 2869.30 is the low point of the first downward hub. Please coach me in more detail on how you see it on the 1-minute.
I personally feel this time is the same as last time on the 5-minute, just at a higher level. So I've been using your analysis from last time as reference, hoping to improve my skills.
I personally think we now need to wait for the second 5-minute hub to appear, forming a downtrend, then look for the divergence point.

Please advise!!! Deeply grateful!

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Look at those candles — neither the upward nor downward moves have three or more overlapping 1-minute bars, so they can't be counted as having a 1-minute hub. In the weakest scenario, after the second 1-minute hub appears tomorrow, divergence occurs, then forms a large 5-minute hub that could even extend into a 30-minute hub, followed by further decline — this possibility cannot be ruled out. No need to predict — just look at the current chart.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:15:26

[Anonymous] abc

2007-02-27 16:09:05
I can't see today's divergence using the MACD method you taught. Could you explain in detail?

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Study the 15-minute chart carefully — that should be clearer. Then use the nested interval method looking at the 1-minute, and you'll find this morning's precise point.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:17:45

[Anonymous] 下下

2007-02-27 16:14:41
"Currently it's nowhere near daily divergence — just a minute-level divergence. But the biggest technical pressure is that the weekly hub must have three segments. Currently walking the third segment."
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Which classmate can identify the first two segments of the weekly hub?

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124 to 206 is the first segment. This rally up is the second. So there must be this decline as the third — otherwise it violates "trend completeness is inevitable."

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:18:29

Two Tigers

2007-02-27 16:16:57
Asking again:
Fairy sis, the midday first 1-minute hub you mentioned — is it the 13:06–13:38 segment?

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Correct.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:20:05

[Anonymous] 职业轿夫

2007-02-27 16:00:11
Those people cursing — how can they have such poor stock-market manners?
It's just a limit-down! If you're afraid of losing, why play stocks?

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None of that matters. The key is to master your technique. If you misjudged this time, learn from the experience. The market is full of opportunities — the key is not to be muddled.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:24:56

[Anonymous] 空杯

2007-02-27 16:19:47
A suggestion for OP:

Try not to expose too much of your actions and situation on this blog, to avoid being tracked by unsavory characters. Society has too many despicable people — once your actions harm their interests, they'll retaliate with any shameless means available.
Apart from teaching and sharing, the less real-world information appears on this blog, the safer.
May you long remain in this virtual world as the queen of us fortunate ones, protecting us small investors as we train and grow in the sea of stocks.
Perhaps I'm overthinking.

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It doesn't matter. There are plenty of spies here — this ID knew that long ago. Some things are said deliberately for these people to hear. Like today with Unicom — someone took a quiet loss. This ID dares to openly let the traitors dump — so why can't this ID dump first? Why should the traitors get to dump at the top? If they want to dump, come down low. If it's not low enough, this ID won't cover.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:28:11

[Anonymous] Little Bird

2007-02-27 16:23:12

Sis, a question:
On 580007's 1-minute chart, is 10:55–11:18 a hub?
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That counts, but the 5-minute shows a standard main decline segment. So any 1-minute movement has little significance. To find a divergence point, you need at least the 5-minute to enter the divergence segment for it to be meaningful.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:29:52

Two Tigers

2007-02-27 16:26:00
Thanks for the answer, fairy sis.
"If it continues to form the second hub tomorrow, then today's limit-down means tomorrow will bring more pain. Better to sell today and pick it up lower tomorrow." Is this thinking correct?

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That's not right. You should sell when there's a divergence sell point, and buy back at a buy point. If you got it wrong, find a sell point on the rebound to exit.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:33:19

[Anonymous] Little Bird

2007-02-27 16:28:13

Sis, a question:
On 580007's 1-minute chart, is 10:55–11:18 a hub?
In the afternoon, is 14:20–14:35 the second hub?

Then divergence appeared?

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No divergence — if there is any, it's below the 1-minute level. And it's not the second hub either — there's one before it.



缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:34:19

[Anonymous] 青青子衿

2007-02-27 16:31:03
Chan sis, wouldn't the completion of the weekly third segment require another 100+ points of decline? Must it break the previous low of 2541 with divergence to confirm?
My skills aren't polished. Ran away yesterday, and picked up a bit today.

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A mistake is a mistake. The key is to learn from experience. You must wait for divergence before buying back in.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:35:12

[Anonymous] 淡定

2007-02-27 16:25:45
Everyone cursing OP — get out!!

Forever supporting you, OP!!!!

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No need. People can say whatever they want here. The key is having basic judgment yourself.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:42:16

[Anonymous] 有女万事足

2007-02-27 16:38:21
A question for the blogger:

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124 to 206 is the first segment. This rally up is the second. So there must be this decline as the third — otherwise it violates "trend completeness is inevitable."
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Why must the third segment be completed for the trend to be "complete"? How is this "three" determined?

I've asked about this "three" before — the blogger was probably too busy to answer. Asking again.

Could it really be related to self-similarity?

I personally don't trade stocks, but I did some research on self-similarity in an engineering field for years. Never got great results — it seemed only useful for after-the-fact characterization, correlated with other indicators. After graduating, I didn't continue research on the fine structure. I stumbled upon the blogger's theory and thus have this question.

The blogger's close reading of The Analects — the method and angle of approach — is extremely persuasive. Please continue.

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Without three segments, where is the overlap? That would mean forever going in one direction — and that's impossible. This hub structure is indeed related to self-similarity, but doesn't require using similar concepts.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:44:32

[Anonymous] 三藏

2007-02-27 16:40:16
Boss, for a movement with only one hub, if reversal occurs afterward, is it necessarily consolidation divergence?
If so, does it occur in the C segment?

I've been thinking about this for a long time.

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There's a double layer here. First, the comparison between A and C producing consolidation divergence. Second, the sub-level divergence within C itself. Generally, these two have a relationship similar to nested intervals.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:46:59

[Anonymous] QQ

2007-02-27 16:42:33
Chan mm, could you analyze the 5-minute chart of the index from 2541 to 3049? I feel like there are so many hubs.
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Not necessary. If the market has already formed 30-minute hubs, then just look at the 30-minute. Starting from the second one, closely monitor whether it enters the divergence segment. Then use nested intervals for precise positioning.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:48:06

[Anonymous] salmon

2007-02-27 16:42:38
Today was brutal. What a lesson! This morning I sold some stocks at highs, then repeatedly told myself: absolutely no buying today. But in the afternoon, I still couldn't resist placing orders, and all gloriously got trapped!

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Trade by the chart. No divergence, no covering.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:54:50

[Anonymous] 插班生

2007-02-27 16:22:52
OP, I really can't figure it out.

[Anonymous] 插班生

2007-02-27 16:05:25
Today from 9:51–10:08 constitutes a 1-minute hub — the second one. The third segment of that hub was the very weak kind, which is very common in fast-moving markets. Look at more charts and you'll be able to distinguish.

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OP, today's 10:25–10:46 and 10:56–11:18, walking the same as the last 5-minute divergence segment's second 1-minute hub you explained from the 2980 decline. Why did the previous one count as a hub but this one doesn't?
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Note: between 5-minute hubs, not everything is necessarily 1-minute level — it can be sub-1-minute. The key relates to the C segment. If what you identify as the C segment is completely downward, it can't be the C segment of a rebound. The C segment needs at least a slight upward tilt sustained for a bit of time to qualify. Today's two segments were basically slowly tilting downward — inconsistent with the up-down-up requirement.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:56:04

[Anonymous] 您好

2007-02-27 16:54:36
OP: Hello
   When the market is bad, should all individual stocks be sold regardless? Like today! Thanks!
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You should exit when entering a larger-level divergence — don't wait until it's already falling to ask whether to sell or not.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:57:21

[Anonymous] 勇敢的心

2007-02-27 16:54:32
A question for OP: Sometimes a momentary dump order knocks a stock down 5%+, affecting hub judgment. Like 000990 from 9:35–11:00 — does this count as a hub?

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A momentary one — if it doesn't form overlap on the 1-minute chart, then no, it doesn't count.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 16:59:10

[Anonymous] QQ

2007-02-27 16:57:06
Thanks Chan mm. Currently at 20% position. Since the market's 30-minute level has already formed two hubs and may enter divergence, risk is increasing. At what level divergence should I cover?

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That was a metaphor. The market diverged long ago — otherwise where would today's decline come from? Now the issue is the divergence of the decline. Specifics were covered in the first post.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 17:00:14

[Anonymous] 深潜

2007-02-27 16:57:54
Hello teacher.
Didn't sell today — everything hit limit-down. Didn't expect 1-minute to produce such great force.
Continuing to study.
Teacher, you work hard.

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Your understanding is wrong. It's the power of nested intervals — not just a 1-minute issue. The higher levels also entered divergence segments.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 17:03:04

[Anonymous] 套住了

2007-02-27 16:49:33
Can I keep holding 000915-600069-000938-002012? I'm trapped. Thanks!
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Mid-term, all fine. Short-term there's a big oscillation. I'd guess your buying prices certainly weren't at buy points — this habit needs to change.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 17:07:39

[Anonymous] 红欲然

2007-02-27 17:01:50
Sis, my operations today were quite bad. This morning, seeing things weren't right, I sold everything, but it had already come down a stretch. In the afternoon, I saw 099 had a 1-minute divergence at 5.70 and went full position. Result: the close pinned it to the floor. Chan sis, in this situation, should I dump at any price at tomorrow's open, then wait for the decline to exhaust with a second hub divergence before buying back?

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Wait for true divergence before covering. Your buying position was wrong. If a 1-minute decline has already triggered a 5-minute main decline, divergence at that point can't be used. Why? Per nested intervals, you need to wait for the 5-minute to enter its divergence segment. Your position isn't a big problem though — just treat it as having done a swing trade that reduced your cost basis.





缠中说禅 2007/2/27 17:18:33

[Anonymous] 缠文观止

2007-02-27 17:06:13
Chán Zhōng Shuō Chán 2007-02-27 16:17:45
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124 to 206 is the first segment. This rally up is the second. So there must be this decline as the third — otherwise it violates "trend completeness is inevitable."

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Hello OP!
124–206 is the first segment — isn't that a 5-minute downtrend? This rally as the second segment is at most a 30-minute movement. How can they form the first two segments of a weekly hub?

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You're right. What was said above wasn't entirely rigorous. A weekly hub first needs a daily hub to form, then expand from there. Strictly speaking, we're currently only in the third sub-segment of the first segment. But the situation here is somewhat complex, involving content not yet covered. To fully explain this hub issue requires two more lessons. After those two, your understanding of hubs will be much deeper. Please be patient.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 17:22:02

[Anonymous] 中间体

2007-02-27 17:18:00
Chan sis, I remember asking you before: per weekly completeness, there must be a third declining segment. But you didn't answer. Later I thought — if the third segment doesn't come, then a hub doesn't form, so that's also correct. Doesn't that walk into a chicken-or-egg paradox?
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If a hub doesn't form, then no divergence will appear — that's the key to the whole issue.

缠中说禅 2007/2/27 17:23:58
5:30 — signing off. Will continue discussing hubs tomorrow.