Yunguzi, Let This ID Educate You on Behalf of the Incompetent Left!

2006/8/3 18:11:19

This ID has recently been writing "Toppling Western and Eastern Economics," meaning all economics falls within the scope of what this ID is toppling. But there are laughable people in this world who haven't even understood what they're opposing — they first fabricate something, then pleasure themselves over it to show they've defeated so-and-so. This self-pleasuring game is so common it has already exceeded the bounds of ordinary absurdity. Recently, someone called Yunguzi has been engaging in this self-pleasuring game day after day, yet the incompetent left is itself so muddleheaded that it actually allows this person to publicly perform such contemptible acts. The left is truly beyond cure.

The vast majority of people, including this individual, have essentially a negative understanding of Old Marx's economics, because it's basically all self-pleasuring distortion. This ID doesn't have time to educate such people. Let me just address the issue of labor and value, since this person today once again self-pleasured out the question: "Did labor create value before commodities existed?" From this title alone, you can tell this person is utterly ignorant of Old Marx's economics. Of course, the reason this ID is willing to say a few words is: first, this ID is in a good mood, and second, it's a convenient opportunity to hammer the left. Otherwise, this ID wouldn't bother.

For the vast majority of people, there's one thing they can't grasp: value is a historical concept, not something absolute and a priori — just as commodities are merely a historical phenomenon. And labor likewise is not an abstract concept; it has different meanings in different historical periods. In fact, in Old Marx's system, all concepts can only be historical; there are no a priori premises.

Specifically regarding labor, commodities, and value: the reason labor, commodities, and value are linked together in a logical relationship is not because they have some a priori logical connection, but because it was formed through a historical process. Before this historical process appeared, there was no logical relationship whatsoever among labor, commodities, and value. In Old Marx's framework, logic too is historical. If you don't understand this, you haven't even found the door to Old Marx's system.

The historical stage that produces the logical relationship among labor, commodities, and value is called capitalism in Old Marx's terminology. Before or after this stage exists, commodities and value don't even possess any real logical significance. Any logical proposition about the relationship among labor, commodities, and value is meaningless — including "Did labor create value before commodities existed?" and the like. Why is Old Marx's philosophy called historical materialism? The number of people in this world who truly understand is probably vanishingly small — otherwise there wouldn't be jokes like Stalin's. Those who self-pleasure with a priori logic — how pitiful!